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22 May 2009 @ 07:28 pm
Thoughts on Star Trek  
  • Kyle Urban was perfect as McCoy. Quinto did an excellent job as Spock, but Urban was dead on in that part. More than an imitation, he really seemed like a younger version of the character, a lovable-humbug-in-training. His "Dammit, Jim"s felt natural, and not like the TOS callbacks they were. Of course, Kirk gave him plenty of opportunities to say it...
  • Kirk is the worst liar ever. He couldn't be more obvious about being responsible for the Kobayashi Maru test's "glitch" if he tried. And his "Huh. Strange." reaction to the future ship's greeting "Ambassador" Spock is like holding up a flashing sign saying "I know more than I'm willing to say".
  • Gaila was hot and I liked her. And Kirk's response to her saying she loved him was hilarious. I hope she lived.
  • I wish they'd given John Cho more to do as Sulu. After his big action scene on the drilling platform (which was cool), that's pretty much it for him. I think they should have had him try to pry Spock off of Kirk (after all, Kirk did jump off of the platform to save him), but that's fanwank territory. Cho did a good job with what he had.
  • Enterprise seems to have been retconned out completely. Good riddance.
  • Star Trek IV: Save the Whales The Voyage Home, though, is still in continuity, because the point of divergence for the new Trek timeline is well after the Enterprise crew prime visited San Francisco. Spock Prime still totally gave some punk on a Muni bus the Vulcan neck pinch, ha!
  • On the other hand, I'm not even going to try to reconcile the semi-elastic timeline of ST4 with the strictly diverging one from this movie. That way lies madness.
  • Simon Pegg's Scotty is pretty far from the original. I'll chalk that up to being exiled to an ice planet (which I assume never happened to the original) and going a little stir-crazy.
  • The joyride scene was pretty pointless. Sure, it was a parallel scene to Spock's academic childhood, but it didn't really add much to Kirk's characterization. And it went on too long. I'm nitpicking though.
  • Making Spock the Acting Captain made perfect sense. But why off Earth did Captain Pike promote Kirk to First Officer at the same time, when he was just this side of being a stowaway?
  • In hindsight, Nero was kind of a weird villain. I mean, he was just a miner. Yet somehow his future mining vessel is loaded for bear and fully capable of taking on Starfleet. Sure, he got the drop on them, but still.
  • I totally didn't recognize Winona Ryder.
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. It was a great, fun adventure flick. But one major element doesn't work for me: I just can't believe that new-timeline Kirk and Spock could really trust each other, despite Spock Prime's optimism. They just don't seem to be heading in that direction. Particularly from Spock's POV, Kirk has done almost nothing but antagonize him (to the point of making him actually lose his cool). Even after they beam onto Nero's ship together, Kirk is still obviously keeping things from Spock. Spock Prime's insistence that "oh, you're going to be bestest buds, I promise" seems pretty weak, especially when you consider that they're not really the same people as the originals: their life experiences are different and so is their behavior. I guess we have to trust in the power of nostalgia-fueled destiny.

Brief thoughts on trailers:
  • That caveman thing with Jack Black looks like an utter turd. Pass.
  • Transformers 2 looks like the action will be just as hard to follow as in the first one, and I don't care. CONSTRUCTICONS, mother fuckers! And it looks like they may be combiners! As long as a sufficient quantity of shit blows up while Shia LeBouf runs around in a panic, I will be happy.
  • I will only go see the movie of Land of the Lost if they have Dr. Steel's title song on the soundtrack. Nothing else will get me to sit through that much Will Ferrell and that many obvious jokes.
Finally, I leave you with a video on how to talk like William Shatner:
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cholma: ST Deltacholma on May 23rd, 2009 07:42 pm (UTC)
Did you notice that the uniforms worn on the Kelvin were like an updated version of the ones worn on Enterprise? Plus, at the end, Pike is wearing a uniform similar to that seen in ST: The Motion Picture.

Nero was a stupid villain. They gave him pretty much nothing to do. Eric Bana was wasted in that role. A chimp could've done it. No clue why his mining ship was outfitted with so many weapons (unless it's just a standard Romulan thing) but since he's from 120+ years in the future, it's no surprise he could destroy Federation ships so easily.

I didn't recognize Winona Ryder the first time I saw it either.

Kobayashi Maru: I agree that Kirk was an idiot. If he had played it straight, instead of as an ass, he would've been good. Then he could've received his "commendation for original thinking" and it would've fit with established history with no problems.

Considering how much Abrams was changing, I was kind of surprised he put in the Vulcan bullies, especially since it's somthing just barely mentioned by Spock's mom in a single episode. (Journey to Babel I think)
gwallagwalla on May 23rd, 2009 08:00 pm (UTC)
I hadn't noticed that about the Kelvin uniforms, no.

I agree that Nero needed more to do. On the other hand, the movie was really about Kirk and Spock, and he's basically just there to push the plot along.

Remember, Abrams was only a casual Trek fan, but the screenwriters are big Trekkies. It shouldn't be that surprising that they inserted some trivia callbacks. Apparently there's also a reference to Mudd hiding in there somewhere.
Amelia: BADASS SPOCKpadparadscha on May 24th, 2009 03:09 am (UTC)
No clue why his mining ship was outfitted with so many weapons

Well, he had to do SOMETHING in the 25 years while he was waiting for Spock. Maybe he used all his emergency weapons on the Kelvin and then just spent a quarter-century pimping the darn ship out again.

Speaking of throwbacks, did you see Scotty's tribbles?

And come on, how can you NOT have Vulcan bullies? It's too good an image to pass up. (And yes, your nerd recall is correct on the episode OH GOD WE'RE GEEKS.)
gwallagwalla on May 24th, 2009 07:06 pm (UTC)
I did not see Scotty's tribbles, though I keep hearing about them. Maybe Iota Geminorum IV is another ice planet, and tribbles evolved for those harsh conditions, so they reproduce out of control in warm environments?

Also, wtf icon
Amelia: BADASS SPOCKpadparadscha on May 24th, 2009 03:02 am (UTC)
I think the idea was that Pike recognized that Kirk'n'Spock would make a dream team, but that's a bit of a reach. (Hell, I was just happy to have Pike in it.)

I keep wondering how being told they're supposed be great friends is going to mess with their heads. I think it would make things very, very awkward, forced, and confused. (Especially if the mind meld leaked at all and told Kirk a bit more than he expected.) But then, Spock Prime doesn't seem very interested in saving the timeline this time around. Dulmer and Lucsly the Time Cops would bust him SO HARD for Scotty's warp equation alone.

Nero was a shit villain, but I have yet to find a Romulan who isn't a shit villain. At least it wasn't the Ferengi blowing up Vulcan. That would have just been INSULTING.

I really hope this Transformers will be as utterly stupid as the first one was. I don't go to these movies for the intellectual stimulation.
gwallagwalla on May 24th, 2009 06:49 pm (UTC)
Eh, the captain from Balance of Terror wasn't bad. But that was basically Run Silent, Run Deep IN SPAAAACE.

Yeah the Ferengi as villains would have been ridiculous. Fortunately I don't think there was much chance of that. From what I've read, J. J. Abrams is of the opinion that Star Trek means Kirk and Spock, and all of the other series are "separate space adventures with the name Star Trek attached".

Yeah, I watched that scene thinking "Wait, so I guess Scotty will never invent that equation now? Or he's just going to take credit for it?" Ah well.

Since it's still Michael Bay, I fully expect the new Transformers to be dumb as hell and have plenty of explodification.

Edited at 2009-05-24 06:50 pm (UTC)
Lil' Mikee Gee: enterpriselilmikeegee on May 25th, 2009 12:22 am (UTC)
they made mention of admiral archer. so they did not retcon enterprise out completely.