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07 June 2004 @ 11:55 pm
From the ultra top secret opers-only channel on Nightstar. This started with ToxicFrog (who was fairly talkative for someone who was supposedly away from his keyboard) complaining about keyboards with extra buttons and keys:

<Pi>    Now I have a wireless kb that I *think* has about 170 keys.
<PinkFreud>    jeebus.
<PinkFreud>    only 170?
<Pi>    Well, not quite...  But it is a standard 104 layout, plus 23 extra keys arranged around the outside.
<Kazriko>    hmm. lesse, 101+22 keys on this, and 2 wheels.
<Kazriko>    also wireless.
<PinkFreud>    laptop keyboard.  not wireless, unless you count the laptop.
<Pi>    Ah.  I was counting each wheel as 2 keys, because each one emulates two keypresses (scrlup, scrldn) so it's 104 + 19 + 2 wheels
<Kazriko>    hmm, well, one's more of a volume knob than a wheel.
<Kazriko>    i counted the wheel as 1 key, plus a wheel, (you can push it in as well.)
<gwalla>    I want one of those crazy Lisp machine keyboards
<gwalla>    that have like 357 keys
<Pi>    Then there's the 7-button + wheel mouse....
<Kazriko>    my home mouse is a 4 button plus wheel,
<PinkFreud>    i still like the old three-button mice.
<PinkFreud>    the ones you can now only find on *nix workstations.
<Kazriko>    heh, my linux system has a nice 2 button mouse.
<Kazriko>    and a nice 3 button trackball.
<PinkFreud>    i'm using a three button (wheel) mouse, though.
<Pi>    ... Five-button + wheel trackball at work...  :)
<Pi>    (and ironically, I miss those extra three buttons at work)
<PinkFreud>    i do have two granite sgi mice w/ 3 buttons though
*    ToxicFrog[AFK] is still looking for a proper DEC RT101.
<PinkFreud>    complete with the requisite sgi workstations
<PinkFreud>    i'm just nuts that way
<gwalla>    If somebody made a space-cadet keyboard with function keys and "Internet keys", I'd be all over it
<gwalla>    more keys == more BETTER!
*    ToxicFrog[AFK] eyes gwalla.
<gwalla>    hehe
<gwalla>    http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/S/space-cadet-keyboard.html
*    ToxicFrog[AFK] hands gwalla a small pamphlet reading "Hardware Bloat: Just Say No."
<gwalla>    with windows keys and menu keys and open and closed apple keys!!!1
*    gwalla twitches
<ToxicFrog[AFK]>    ...he's gone.
*    ToxicFrog[AFK] shoots gwalla humanely.
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The Watcherrimspace on June 8th, 2004 11:53 am (UTC)
The happy medium as far as I'm concerned is the Sun Type 5: you get the extra Sun and meta keys (genuinely useful on a Linux system), build quality that you can literally feel (as in the keyboard weighs about three times as much as a modern board) and no silly buttons for programs you have open all the time anyway (sylpheed/mozilla/emacs etc). It's easy enough to connect to a PC if you don't need to use it in Windows (you can just use a TTL to RS232 converter box and use the serial sunkbd driver.)

I got mine from work when they were throwing out a load of old Sparc boxes but they turn up on ebay quite regularly. New ones cost over $100! :/
gwallagwalla on June 8th, 2004 06:02 pm (UTC)
Ah, I'd forgotten about the Sun editing keys. I used to use those all the time on the SPARCstations at college.